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I have not yet watched an episode but have been hearing about Rogue being drawn like some skinny, preteen all gawky. Also Morph uses pro-nouns??? In the original series he and Logan are drinking buddies. I really, truly hope they dont try to insinuate theres someting going on between the two. Not cool! |
Yes! As a twelve year old kid thats really all that mattered. Its no-ones business what I did between commercials 🤪. I feel like all this woke crap and the rainbow clan go way beyond this personal statement.They purposely set themselves apart, vulgarly describe their likes out to the world and get upset when we recoil |
Another purposeful blow to your heart, designed to sour another memory that keeps you sane during a time when everyone is trying to force their ideology down your throat using government. Don't let these mediocre losers sour the memory of greatness. There is no participation trophy that this show deserves. |
First impressions are a let down but the show is watchable. |
Marvel's own description of the X-Men: "... pursuing a dream of harmony between mutants and humans. That peaceful dream has been challenged over and over, either by evil mutants or human bigotry... the original team fought for a world that hated and feared them." Woke is all-American and heroic 🇺🇸 🥳 💙 |
Marvel's own description of the X-Men: "... pursuing a dream of harmony between mutants and humans. That peaceful dream has been challenged over and over, either by evil mutants or human bigotry... the original team fought for a world that hated and feared them." Woke is all-American and heroic 🇺🇸 🥳 💙 |
re: ''Woke is all-American and heroic'' - No. That is what wokesters believe about themselves much the same way that religious zealots believe they're righteous and holy. What really defines being ''woke'' isn't that one is 'awake' and aware of injustice and oppression but that one strikes a pose of simulated virtue. |
X-Men representing lgbt and other minorities. Always has been If you believe that this, or Star Trek, has 'gone woke,' it's indeed time to wake up and apply some media literacy to your misplaced childhood nostalgia. |
You're clearly re-writing history in your head There's a major difference between genuine representation, and simply shoehorning stuff in to pander to the vocal lunatics on social media. |
Pardon? Pick up the ORIGINAL comics (decades worth), and you'll quickly learn you're wrong. Disney's repurposing of characters to push Woke propaganda has no connection to the spirit or intent of the source material. |
i think alot of people are feeling salty because they see the characters and realize there might be some things in their personal lives they might need to revisit.. or reason on... and yes the original x-men had the same theme just different issues for a different time. even the illistrator of the comic admits that |
The X-Men were always focussed on fighting bigotry, and Marvel introduced gay mutants more than 30 years ago (Northstar in Alpha Flight #106, 1992). Star Trek had the first multi-cultural, multi-racial cast on TV, AND had the first inter-racial kiss (Plato’s Stepchildren, 1968). Spot on timecapture |
The many hundreds of X-men comics I have say you're wrong. Having one C list character happen to be gay in Alpha Flight is only evidence of Woke desperation to re-write history with their own racist, sexist and bigoted framing. |
saying ''Always has been'' is definitely wrong. original wasn't even a prejudice allegory, but merely a narrative shortcut to have new characters with superpowers with no need for unique origins. the racism/anti-semitism allegory was part of the reboot. sexual orientation was an added theme maybe 25yrs into the series. |
Brrzrrkrr, there are more than 70 LGBTQ+ characters in the X-Men franchise (https://www[dot]reddit[dot]com/r/xmen/comments/eoteni/list_of_xmen_lgbtq_characters/). Marvel's own web site states that "the original team fought for a world that hated and feared them". Social justice warriors at their mutant best |
LiberalLesbo- yes, discrimination over orientation was eventually added but 1) it wasn't part of the orig vision 2) current controversy is over being "enby," which isn't prejudice but nonexistent identities and 3) neither "woke" nor SJW are about fighting bigotry but are about dictating to society whom one should hate |
Timecapture ,you are right! X-Men always was what these bigots called woke. They are saying your wrong, but no one is proving you wrong, lol. X-men was based on the actual civil rights movement and uses actual lines from Malcolm X and MLK. It was always about injustice and being woke. And I read the comics. |
After decades of the X-Men existing with no meaningful references to Woke causes and propaganda, Marvel comics, like almost every other media, became ideologically captured by evil Woke monsters who work to pervert its characters and history. The educated understand they're lying and full of . |
re: ''no one is proving you wrong'' - i did. the claim that it was ALWAYS about civil rights is untrue. the first run ended in cancellation due to poor sales. it was just another atomic powered super family that failed where fantastic 4 succeeded. rebooted five years later, claremont added race and antisemitism themes. |
Nothing tragic here. Best piece of non-comic X-Men media ever, and it's only episode 2. Fantastic. |
You probably enjoy it if you familiar with the old X-Men animated series. Theme explored, even the voice cast is pretty much the same. |
Double feature, episode 2: https://torrentgalaxy.to/torrent/15942255/X-Men-97-S01E02-WEB-x264-TORRENTGALAXY |
how do you search for this show? everything i put in the search bar comes up empty |
You can search for movies & TV using the IMBb ttcode. In this case that code is tt16026746 and and will return these search results: https://torrentgalaxy.to/torrents.php?search=tt16026746 |
Cheap, janky animation that lacks the soul of the original. The excuse for the original was that it was hand drawn under a timeline. This is almost as if they programmed the jank into the animation for nostalgic purposes. Art style is crap. X men evolution used a better art style when they revamped it. Original voices for most but not all, which is a shame. I miss Rouge and some others. Cant believe how bad the motion animation was. Cant believe how badly they drew their eyes. Its like the She Ra or He man reboots with 1/4 the budget. A cash grab travesty. I'm still going to watch them all. |
I wrote this. And after finishing the whole episode, I'll say that it redeems itself and gives itself a soul. Basically, its the art style and the janky twitchy missing frame animation that you have to get over. Its otherwise a hybrid of evolution and the original's spirit. It works. Just step up the frames per second |
heres what cracks me up for the ignorant.. every movie, tv show, and play you have ever seen in your life, ever since the beginning hell even the very 1st black and whites all of them every single one has both a gay and bi person in it .... |
I love the 180 you did after actually watching the show. It's always that way with Wokespotters. They claim a show is bad because of the inclusion of things they dislike (usually black folks, LGBT folks, or non-submissive women) and decide that the media must therefore be bad. X-Men '97 rips. End of story. |
"Readers coming to the [X-Men] series recognize the echoes of real-world prejudice—racism, homophobia and so on—and that in turn makes the series seem just that little bit more grounded in reality, despite the fact that it’s essentially sci-fi. The difference between mutants and other heroes is that mutants are identifiably a human sub-species, marked by their pos- session of the X-gene. This provides a narrative rationale both for their solidarity and for the attacks made on them by groups and individuals with an agenda based on the psychology and politics of race hatred." Mike Carey (Writer of X-Men: Legacy) in Joseph J. Darowski (2014). X-Men and the Mutant Metaphor: Race and Gender in the Comic Books, pp. 6-7. Rowman & Littlefield. Of course, this particular quotation proves nothing, it's a book and therefore not peer-reviewed, it's just a collection of opinions. But, there happens to be a lot of opinions of creators of the X-Men stories from 1963 to the present. I just found that interesting, and thought others might too. |
Another attempt by the Woke to rewrite history as they do with sex, race and sexuality swaps. The endless focus on race and homosexuality was never a part of the original comic books or characters. Decades of evidence is available to prove this point. The Woke X-men are NOT the X-men. |
I think B., that you're ignoring that which you do not want to acknowledge You are amusing sometimes |
rewrite history as they do with sex, race and sexuality swaps uhh what rewrite not getting it rewrite what you thought in your own bubble maybe ... i suggest you learn more about your history cause theres a whole shitload your missing or choose to miss ... |
Some people are calling this woke... An animated series where people have to stand against people because of the way they were born, they have to stand against racists calling for them to be locked up or excluded from society. If what you do in the street is what the villains in this show are doing, then you are a villain, dude. |
In response to the re-writing of comic book history by some on this page... Professor X (panels 2 and 3): But, when I was young, normal people feared me, distrusted me! I realized the human race is not yet ready to ACCEPT those with extra powers! So I decided to build a haven... a school for X-Men! Here we stay, unsuspected by normal humans, as we learn to use our powers for the benefit of mankind... to help those who would distrust us if they knew of our existence! X-Men Vol. 1 #001 (1963-09), p. 10 Professor X (panels 2 and 3): So! It has finally begun! The one thing I always feared--a witch hunt for mutants! The feature writers must have LOVED this, considering the way they played it up! Professor X (fourth panel): I cannot let this go unchallenged! It could cause panic throughout the world! X-Men Vol. 1 #014 (1965-11), p. 6 "Mutants in general could serve as a metaphor for any segment of humanity that was the victim of prejudice and oppression for reasons of race, religion, gender, or any other case." John B. Cooke "Dawn of the Marvel mutants: The X-Men of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby" in X-Men Omnibus Vol. 1, 1963-1967. Marvel. |
Themes: A) don't be prejudiced B) oppression is bad; Heroes w/ secret identities are all lessons to not judge superficially/unfairly. All villains who'd take over the world show oppression is wrong. Your worldview casts this as race and being gay as libertarians might see crime fighting as mainly about property rights. |
No FauxJira in all posts here I have responded to other peoples' assertions by refuting them with additional opinion to my own as supportive. Themes of the discourse were dictated not by my worldview, but by prior statements; yours included. |
finding others who similarly share your worldview and therefore agree with your conclusion is hardly a refutation of those who disagree because they don't share your worldview. the fact that you think otherwise is just another consequence of interpreting everything through the lens of your worldview. |
PS: Even as you cited Cooke to back up the claim of race & lgbt, the quote is saying it's the general principles of prejudice and oppression rather than particular forms, but you're reading it as if it said the opposite because that's how you choose to interpret it. |
FauxJira the citations I've used come directly from the comic books and the creators thereof. That's not really "finding others who similarly share your worldview", it's citing source data. Might I suggest a good text on qualitative research methodologies? Make a post in the "EBook Request" forum and I'll help. |
Is that so? Where exactly is this source you have for the writers themselves saying pre Giant Size story arcs were scripted as allegories for homophobia? LOL, maybe I need to suggest a decent text for you about understanding when you're suffering from self-deception and delusions. |
Darowski, J. (2014). X-Men and the Mutant Metaphor: Race and Gender in the Comic Books (see above) and other cited works are more than sufficient to support my points, please read them, they're interesting. If you want to continue this discussion, please PM me. As has been pointed out elsewhere, this is not the place. |
No, your sexual orientation is not an extra "power" to be used for the benefit of mankind, it's just not the same No, darowski is an english professor that cooks social studies essays interpreting the comic subculture and is not a definitive source on the original intent of the original authors. |
How about instead of helping prejudicing lgb people further you stop impeding folks to be seen as normal people instead of mutants? Thanks. |