Oh look, I bet this movie doesn't tell you that the Kingdom of Dahomey was one of the first and also the largest suppliers of African slaves to the European traders and to the Atlantic Slave Trade as early as the year 1700, selling African slaves to the Portuguese to take to Brazil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade#African_awareness_of_the_conditions_of_the_slave_trade African countries and tribes enslaved each other and sold each other long before the Europeans arrived in Africa. Then after the Europeans' arrival, the African countries and tribes sold slaves to the Europeans to make money from it. The idiom "He'd sell his own mother" originated from Europeans in Africa. |
also the "white people" enslaved eachother, before they went to africa to get slaves there too. they where war trophies and show of strenght/power. |
Most European Countries stopped with slave trading in the 19th Century, the USA stopped it in the 20th Century i believe. Even when Racism and Discrimination still today is a common practice in the USA. |
Sooo anywayz, a hard pass now or you'll just wait for the webrip to come out to hard pass it then? |
There is no supply if there is no demand. A blatant example of an alcoholic who blames the bartender for his substance abuse. Can it get any sadder? |
Slavery was widespread in all continents that were inhabited. It was done by all races, against all races. It is still going on today, only those enslaved receive a minimal wage so it doesnt need to be called slavery any more. |
You mean how some states don't want to abolish slave labor because that would impact their free prison labor. |
@Ratso: slavery still occurs today in many countries in Asia and in Africa. Also in Europe. White Slavery is still slavery. People working for very little wages in China and other Asian countries to built Western products is still slavery. |
No, it isn't getting paid very little and being treated like dirt isn't "slavery" in the strict sense. We use the word for such practise, but that's just a hyperbole, not a correct use of the word, which in this case is questionable and undesirable. So, please don't. |
Slavery: condition in which one human being was OWNED by another. A slave was considered by law as property, or chattel, and was deprived of most of the rights ordinarily held by free persons. [source: Britannica] |
cant fix the uneducated not gonna try, and a inciting one at that must be the troll, well until you actually know what a slave is and you dont obviously, speak for yourself .. yes even black slaves on plantations got paid does that mean there not slaves anymore the stupidity is amazing .. |
yes the chinese&irish were owned they signed a paper saying they belonged to the company, at that time that made them the property of the company they worked for, yes they got paid just like other slaves however the entire part your missing is they had to live on company property buy only at company stores no travel . |
I thought Grace Jones in Conan The Destroyer was cool as hell. It doesnt matter what race we are from (im white) warriors are admired by all of us. The Title is clearly meant to upset and cause a stir because manipulating a social media alogrithm is the only advertising left. Next, the movies will be titled, " Men suck and white people too" about 3 animated cats finding their way home who never meet or interact with a human in the entire movie. |
There's even more differentiation than you think. We do not "all admire warriors", many people hate everything that has to do with weapons and violence. |
Grace Jones was awesome. So was Arnie. Can I say that or has he been cancelled? |
I think you guys missed out on the Arab countries that controlled most of the trade !!! Libya and as far over as Morocco. It actually still goes on to this day. Just not Blacks but also a number of European countries. Their not fussy. |
God, this Viola is so annoyingly stupid.Did you watch her interview about "white people don't want a woman-lead-box-office-hit"?...I swear, those people are the real racists! |
Didn't you read the plethora of those exact comments on here? I did and do, right now even. |
@Dido1973: Yep! You nailed it! Antiwhiteism is what's truly going on behind the facade! |
Identity politics by its very nature is inherently prejudiced and when its peddled in the low brow sub-intellectual manner that it always is by Follywood it almost automatically turns into outright bigotry of the worst kind |
you mean by "anti-whitetism, the anti colonialisation-tism-legacy still being practiced in some of the worlds biggest "western" "civil"-isations weilding the biggest stick? I pressume. |
Guest-3113: Is that truly a bad thing tho? Like have you been reading the news & seeing all the wild stuff they do? The shootings, cops, etc, etc... Is it truly a bad thing if ppl are tired of them? This is obviously excluding the good ones. |
It's not about being white. It's about the superiority and privileges that so many claim for themselves as if for granted. Making it about skin colour is a vile way of labelling reverse racism. |
I'm a white male and I honestly don't care for too many woman lead movies, there are a few I like but most just don't appeal to me, aside from that they can lead as many movies as they want but please don't blame white males specifically if the movie fails, that would be most men and a lot of women too. |
Absolutely wild to me that slavery is being discussed under a torrent. Maybe comments were a bad idea. |
And this is just a CAM, wait for the 2160p |
And to think that most haven't seen the movie and never will. You draw the obvious conclusion, mods do not allow me to write it. |
The Americans didn't say "no" when the Europeans brought them slaves, instead they wanted more. The Europeans didn't say "no" when the Americans wanted more, instead brought them as many as they could. The Europeans didn't say "no" when the warlords of the colonised countries offered them the tribes they had conquered, instead they took more. Own your history, it's your legacy too. |
Funny you should mention Europeans bringing slaves. That was minimal compared to the majority of slaves bought in America who were purchased from black slave owners from Africa! |
as a southern american i can say one thing bullsht/ africa had the least amount of slaves in the u.s. when compared to the chinese who built the railroad, or the irish who were enslaved in coal mines and lets not forget the more irish in the steel factories. then we can move on to the forced labor in the textile ind .. |
america was built on the backs of slaves period , thats your history dont like it move cause it aint gonna change it is what it is ... to bad so sad be a ass about it if ya wish ... Still not gonna change ... |
But the government's of those European countries did say "no" 50 years or more before the USA did and didn 't need the most murderous war in their history to address, if not resolve, the issue and it is still not resolved in the USA today, whereas it largely is across Europe. |
Well, during the mid 1800s, half of them were saying "no" and demanding a halt to the slave trade. They fought a war over it too. It's their legacy yes, but ending it was theirs too, and certainly not in the whitewashed manner portrayed in this movie. And yes, it is whitewashed, just look at who the writers are... |
So the Africans rowed over to America by themselves, Guest-4329? |
You as a historian will show us how this history is false, I'm sure. Please do. |
Guest-3989: The economy of the Kingdom of Dahomey was based on slave trading. Many Agojie were taken as slaves as children. Happy to provide evidence. I'm not sure which battle the movie will show but the Kingdom of Dahomey was crushed by the French. The Agojie casualties were enormous - French casualties minimal. |
So, how is this movie a "false history in the name of woke"? Have you even seen the movie at all? |
when it's Hollywood concerned; only few movies aren't based upon "lies" and "half truths" or ''Political Correctness(is such a thing even possible outside your Head?)" Atleast it pushes for a Debate. |
I'm sure Vikings raped women and did other awful things but they never show that in movies. Where's your outrage for them? You're more woke than anyone. |
Why do you use the word "woke"? You could just as easily have used "oatmeal", which makes just as much sense in this context, but you didn't. Don't. Don't purposely use words in a wrong way. |
BLM matter. Don't worry about the fact that it was Blacks enslaving other blacks and selling them off. Everyone does it back then, but only blacks are the victims. Vikings, Genghis Khan enslaved others but they're not enslaving majority of black people so forget them. |
It's funny how two words next to each other can instigate such an uproar. Now, can anyone tell me how the movie is that actually watched it? |
Wow, a lot of commenters here are gonna have a really hard time with the next couple of decades. Guess it happens every few generations; my dad was sooo pissed he had to go to school with "those people". He never did really get over it. Sadly, didn't have many miss him when he passed a few years ago. |
Times change, people change. The real tragedy there is that your Dad couldn't... or wouldn't? |
Problems arise when a lot of people don't want to change. That's when the friction between new times and old mind frames causes sparks. |
You are a good little sheep. You baaaaa with the rest of the heard nicely. Hard time accepting the next couple decades? Nah kid. We know how to isolate ourself from the world and still have fun while you all get to drink the kool aid . We have our nest egg. Our future is already secured, its yours that isnt! Have fun!! |
Oh dear, I'm already looking out for the protagonists on the comment section of Lil' mermaidz when it releases some time next year.. I'l have the popcorn ready |
dont have to wait until next year for those comments, just google it or search youtube, sift through all the negative comments already on the trailer. |
They are literally having a hissy fit about fictional character's races or sexuality. Same reaction to the new "Little Mermaid" or "Sandman" or the new "Lord of the Rings" . |
Woke, PC whatever. I get to see Viola Davis in a skimpy outfit - I'm happy. |
They had electric blenders in the 1800s, colour me impressed. |