H.265 playback always goes out of synch after awhile

realityshow:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover:Posted at 2022-07-09 05:04:18(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Hi i am wondering if it is just me or if anyone else notices that after awhile H.265 vids go slowly out of synch.
If u restart the video and resume from the timecode you were watching everything is fine again, but then slowly slowly goes out of synch (maybe 5-10 mins later).
I`ve experimented with different players i.e Potplayer, VLC, MPC-BE and they all end up doing it. i`m guessing this is from the variable frame rates encoded? is there a tweak to any of the players to solve this?  i know u can speed up slow down audio temporarily with most players to manually apply sych fixes.. not talking about that. Right now i prefer potplayer tho dont mind if u have a tip for a different player. Perhaps there`s a better vid player to download?:_pirate



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realityshow wrote:

Hi i am wondering if it is just me or if anyone else notices that after awhile H.265 vids go slowly out of synch.
If u restart the video and resume from the timecode you were watching everything is fine again, but then slowly slowly goes out of synch (maybe 5-10 mins later)
I`ve experimented with different players i.e Potplayer, VLC, MPC-BE and they all end up doing it. i`m guessing this is from the variable frame rates encoded? is there a tweak to any of the players to solve this? right now i prefer potplayer tho dont mind if u have a tip for a different player. Perhaps there`s a better vid player to download?:_pirate
Hi RealityShow

I have Never faced any issue, at all. On Vlc (I primarily use) / PotPlayer.

What are your PC specs with terms to the Processor and the ram>?

 
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Ange1:_moderator::_female:Posted at 2022-07-09 06:03:54(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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pm sent :)

 
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realityshow:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover:Posted at 2022-07-09 06:04:25(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz Quad Core
Installed RAM 8.00 GB  
Intel UHD600 graphics
64-bit

Yeh it could be my PC it is a low energy one it is on balanced power setting right now tho will try high performance to see if it makes any difference.

 
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realityshow wrote:

Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz Quad Core
Installed RAM 8.00 GB  
Intel UHD600 graphics
64-bit

Yeh it could be my PC it is a low energy one it is on balanced power setting right now tho will try high performance to see if it makes any difference.
I'm sure Ange1:_moderator::_female: pm has got you sorted by now, there's no doubt about that. She helped me with my Internal Hard Drive Issue. And to this very day, my hard drive is functioning smooth.
I am sending you a pm too.

Good luck RealityShow.

 
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Ange1:_moderator::_female:Posted at 2022-07-09 06:23:44(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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NatalieNY wrote:

realityshow wrote:

Processor Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz   2.00 GHz Quad Core
Installed RAM 8.00 GB  
Intel UHD600 graphics
64-bit

Yeh it could be my PC it is a low energy one it is on balanced power setting right now tho will try high performance to see if it makes any difference.
I'm sure Ange1:_moderator::_female: pm has got you sorted by now, there's no doubt about that. She helped me with my Internal Hard Drive Issue. And to this very day, my hard drive is functioning smooth.
I am sending you a pm too.

Good luck RealityShow.
aww thank you sweetie just so happy to be able to help in any way and i am sure your pm will be most helpful too your a star :)

Good luck to realityshow:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover: :) hope we can get you sorted so you can watch them without any problems

 
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realityshow:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover:Posted at 2022-07-09 07:43:19(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Thxs for the suggestions they were useful in determining how to fix:)
This particular PC i have not had long.  its a micro pc (fits in palm of hand) uses very little power. On my bigger PC i left my vid player on default which worked fine but for this PC seemed i needed to tweak a few things.
Whilst working with Ange1:_moderator::_female:`s & NatalieNY:_blocked:`s suggestion i found a drop down menu in Potplayer to enable Intel Quick synch which is an Intel hardware feature exclusive to Intel chipsets for decoding and encoding H.264 & H.265. Seems so far to have fixed the video/audio synching issue.:) Yay! :_:D

 
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woohoo so glad you got it all sorted sweetie well done :) :_love

 
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realityshow:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover:Posted at 2022-07-10 08:35:45(122Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Unfortuantly the fix i found was turned out to be temporary:_:( it worked with MiNx releases, as at the time i was experimenting with "The Boys"s03 MiNx encodes, but then for my fav encodes by Joybell it wouldnt play at all giving a black screen refusing to start, fortuantly Ange1:_moderator::_female: put me on the right track with K-lite codecs which led me to megamix-lav filters which includes MadVR filter. (MadVR is also in K-lite) On testing Battlestar Galactica (2004) series 1080p by Joybell; i had some unsmooth frames somewhat juddering with MadVR which presented a new issue but then after some research & experimentation changed the video render to Direct 3D 11 in Potplayer and now seems ok in conjunction with MadVR. Just thought i should update here incase someone has a similar issue. It maybe that changing the video render to Direct 3D 11 was all that was needed but i dont know for sure as i had already installed MadVR filter, non the less MadVR seems ok + there is a ton of options to improve picture quality:):_:P

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No problems here, Potplayer do the job ok, no sync issue. With every update, Potplayer bring the new codecs but to be sure, install latest lav filters, set Potplayer to work with the new lav filter. Exist tutorial on youtube, easy work, try that, good luck. :_:)

 
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realityshow wrote:

Unfortuantly the fix i found was turned out to be temporary:_:( it worked with MiNx releases, as at the time i was experimenting with "The Boys"s03 MiNx encodes, but then for my fav encodes by Joybell it wouldnt play at all giving a black screen refusing to start, fortuantly Ange1:_moderator::_female: put me on the right track with K-lite codecs which led me to megamix-lav filters which includes MadVR filter. (MadVR is also in K-lite) On testing Battlestar Galactica (2004) series 1080p by Joybell; i had some unsmooth frames somewhat juddering with MadVR which presented a new issue but then after some research & experimentation changed the video render to Direct 3D 11 in Potplayer and now seems ok in conjunction with MadVR. Just thought i should update here incase someone has a similar issue. It maybe that changing the video render to Direct 3D 11 was all that was needed but i dont know for sure as i had already installed MadVR filter, non the less MadVR seems ok + there is a ton of options to improve picture quality:):_:P
aww so sorry the fix you found was only temp :( but so happy that you were able to fix things :) k-lite codecs are great i have had them
installed for many years :) thank you for posting this back as i know it will be so helpful to many peeps :) :_love

 
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aww so sorry the fix you found was only temp :( but so happy that you were able to fix things :) k-lite codecs are great i have had them
installed for many years :) thank you for posting this back as i know it will be so helpful to many peeps :) :_love [/quote]

installing other codec packs in Windows not ok, the packs all ways making problems with the Windows codecs

 
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Csabaxb wrote:

install latest lav filters, set Potplayer to work with the new lav filter. :_:)
Yep fortuantly the download i found on net called "Megamix-lav filters" makes installing to potplayer very easy. On Install it asks which player you are using so you can choose from potplayer or MPC-HC, then it give another option for low , mid, or high end GPU`s which was great, it installs all the Lav filters+ MadVR. Yes i should have mentioned MadVR uses the Lav filters for playback. i see tons of lav filters in the taskbar on vid playback :_:)

***tho would not install to Potplayer portable automatically, so had to get the proper Potplayer.

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Csabaxb wrote:

aww so sorry the fix you found was only temp :( but so happy that you were able to fix things :) k-lite codecs are great i have had them
installed for many years :) thank you for posting this back as i know it will be so helpful to many peeps :) :_love
installing other codec packs in Windows not ok, the packs all ways making problems with the Windows codecs [/quote]

oh dear :( i have had no problems with them :) :_love:_love

 
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Thought i`d update my findings.

Decided to just go with K-lite Codecs as per Ange1:_moderator::_female:`s first suggestion and uninstall Megamix-Lav filters pack as the megamix was primarily geared toward MadVR and my underpower GPU caused MadVR to crash potplayer. Csabaxb:_vip::_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle: pointed out a online tutorial on how to get the K-Lite Lav filters to take over from Potplayer default, so that was useful.
The Megamix Lav filters were soo interwoven with MadVR that if i did not specifically use Madshi render, it would not let me access  subtitles for video on any other render. I had no option but to uninstall, and go for K-lite. Seems MadVR is only good for mid range and above GPU`s, and definitley not suited to my low 15 watts max PC with intergrated Intel 600 UHD GPU.
Anyways valuable lessons learned; for now everything is running smoothly.. tho i said that last time..lol. fingers crossed eh!

**edit, update:recent findings
For some It maybe best to avoid k-lite codecs and just find Lav filters on their own, as K-lite has messed up 2 different video editing softwares on my PC, i`m sure theres a way to fix but cant be bothered instead i found another video editor that wasn`t affected tho some may not be so lucky.
On the subject of video synch, whilst the video is somewhat better it seems to still happen a little U can try  going into potplayer preferences/audio decoder press the little dots next to a decoder and it gives u  LAV audio decoder settings, from here i put a tick in audio delay and set it to zero. whilst u probably dont need to tick it; i thought if i ticked: it may prioritize the audio track which i think helps but could just be psychological.


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Thank you for your update :) glad its all running smoothly now :) woohoo :) :_love

 
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