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You don't even need science to disprove the Shroud of Turin, just some basic knowledge of anatomy and art. Seriously, look at it sometime. The arms are different sizes, and not by a small margin, one of the arms is like half again as long as the other, and a much greater diameter.The head is too small, given the lack of forehead on display the figure would be microcephalic if real. The feet look more like flippers and are not how the feet of a corpse rest, they lack detail and appear to have been crushed flat. The figure is also way too tall, he's well over 6ft, which is unlikely in a normal semitic man from the first century. If that figure was real he would look freakish and it would be impossible to notice. There would probably be rules in Christianity like in Islam with Mohammed forbidding depictions of Jesus if he looked that weird. The body is in an anatomically impossible position for a corpse, with both hands crossed over the groin. The only way to hold your hands crossed over the groin is to either tie them that way, or be alive, and either way it would lift the figure's shoulder blades off the ground affecting the reverse image. That position however is a very common one in religious art, and intended to maintain the figure's dignity. And none of this addresses the fact that shrouds were not just draped across a corpse, they were bound tightly, which would should make the figure very distorted. Ironically it is actually very easy to fake a shroud, so much that a children's art show once did a how to that would result in something eerily similar to the shroud of turin. You need to make a bas relief sculpture of the front and back of a figure, which is then used to basically make a stamp. Of course the scientific testing pretty much completely demolished the shroud as well, so much that the religious have been lying about it ever since. There is no DNA on it, the "blood stains" where found to be pigment. Likely at one point there were hundreds of "official" shrouds, most of which have been lost. In the Medieval period there was a raging trade in religious artifacts, con men taking advantage of the generally wealthy high clergy. Piece of the true cross, knuckle bones of saints, and shrouds were very easy to fake and very common. |
They paint Jesus as the perfect human specimen, but the Jesus person could have been a Quasimodo in real life with a remarkable gift of gab. |
Guest-6287 on 2023-03-04 17:56:07 avatar @1110 All of these fringe hypotheses have been scientifically refuted, by carbon-dating experts and others using actual evidence from the shroud itself. Scientists are not morons. Church doesn't recognize it as real either. Also no need for facepalm, it's rude and entitled. |
Italian to English subs not working as they should, waiting for proper copy as all on here are the same |
the first 2 or 3 mins is good and cool, after that it's pretty medicore. if you can't to watch in the first 10mins then stop watching it because it will pretty much like that for the rest of the movie. I don't expect academy award story writing but I feels poorly/lazy writing. |
Totally impossible because the Shroud was never found and the one in Turin has been scientifically proven to not be it. |
The Shroud in Turin almost burned in a fire, they were able to patch the burns with cloth of that era [1532]... Fragments from the 1532 patching is what they were allowed to take specimens of - that's why it was proven not to date back 2000 years. Now: Is it real? Who Knows... |
Of course it's not real because Jesus was just some con man, not the son of some imaginary sky fairy, so there was no magic to create some mystical "shroud" in the first place. Abrahamic mythology is no more real than Greco/Roman, Norse, or or myriad others. For Man created God in his own image! |
@1110 All of these fringe hypotheses have been scientifically refuted, by carbon-dating experts and others using actual evidence from the shroud itself. Scientists are not morons. Church doesn't recognize it as real either. Also no need for facepalm, it's rude and entitled. |
There's another way (and it has to do with Ron Wyatt): Blood from crack in the rocks below the cross. In this scenario it has only 24 chromosomes (instead of the usual 46) where 23 come from the mother's egg and a single "Y" chromosome comes from the divine side. (So, there's no duplication of DNA, no pairs) |
Nope, Jesus was an alien sent to find his missing friends that he didnt know the dinosaurs had eaten. The people he found started kissing his feet and he was liking it. Then Romans grabbed him and nailed him to a cross. Thats why UFOs are here now hunting for all those missing. The mystery of their vanished brothers. |
The shroud is 100% real it is human dna it is from about the time of jesus, it ends there... is it jesus ok well honestly take every single person in the world at that time then add a /1 those are about the odds which are about the same as winning the billion dollar lotto not gonna happen .. |
Great to see you back Jaxe! My condolences on your loss, hope you're doing ok. |
As impossible as werewolves and zombies. Never hear nobody complain about that, though. |
Dunno The face in the shroud lks uncannily like the many photographs of Our Lord & Saviour, Jesus Christ |
This isn't a documentary you sad twat. Lol. "Totally impossible" why don't I see you typing this on Avenger movies??? |
I can't vouch for the shroud, but Jesus is real, and yes an alien. We are decedents from aliens. Not from some ape that somehow became intelligent and aware. Evolution works but to a certain degree. The environment does not cause DNA changes, and DNA changes to reproduce is almost a miracle. Look at mules, ligers, and other hybrids that are sterile. And, when I mean alien, I don't mean funny little green guys with huge eyes. It just means that we are not from this earth, or maybe even this dimension. Read some string theory and quantum physics. We are very far from figuring out all the truth, but we are getting closer. |
It is pathetic that people carry these kinds of views. Almost as nutty as the ones believing in a magical sky guy who listens to you whispering to yourself. |