Audio Cleanup on Aisle 4

phunpsyz:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_junkie::_sun:Posted at 2022-10-24 16:42:21(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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recently had some comments about compatibility issues using audio codecs ac-3 & e-ac-3

for the past week-ish or so, I changed the stereo (2.0) audio codec to he-aac and starting with the

 The Usual Suspects (1995) 1080p 5.1 - 2.0 x264 Phun Psyz
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upload, I switched the 5.1 audio track to he-aac as well

all of the HoTD season finale uploads used he-aac for 5.1 & 2.0

has anyone had any compatibility issues or quality problems with he-aac, and if so, what is your preferred audio codec using a bit rate that will not exceed 320kbps for 5.1 and 160kbps for 2.0?


 
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B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2022-10-24 16:51:14(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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phunpsyz wrote:

recently had some comments about compatibility issues using audio codecs ac-3 & e-ac-3

for the past week-ish or so, I changed the stereo (2.0) audio codec to he-aac and starting with the

 The Usual Suspects (1995) 1080p 5.1 - 2.0 x264 Phun Psyz
Seeds: 1 / Leechers: 2 / Completed: 181    
DL  

upload, I switched the 5.1 audio track to he-aac as well

all of the HoTD season finale uploads used he-aac for 5.1 & 2.0

has anyone had any compatibility issues or quality problems with he-aac, and if so, what is your preferred audio codec using a bit rate that will not exceed 320kbps for 5.1 and 160kbps for 2.0?
Always had probs with AC-3 here:_facepalm:_facepalm...some DVD/BLURAY players also won't play AC-3 audio...aswell as some TV's
:_pirate

 
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phunpsyz:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_junkie::_sun:Posted at 2022-10-24 22:25:08(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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guessing if you had problems with ac-3 then e-ac-3 is the same

so you're preferred codec would be _________

B4ND1T69 wrote:

Always had probs with AC-3 here:_facepalm:_facepalm...some DVD/BLURAY players also won't play AC-3 audio...aswell as some TV's
:_pirate


 
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B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2022-10-24 22:37:42(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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phunpsyz wrote:

guessing if you had problems with ac-3 then e-ac-3 is the same

so you're preferred codec would be _________

B4ND1T69 wrote:

Always had probs with AC-3 here:_facepalm:_facepalm...some DVD/BLURAY players also won't play AC-3 audio...aswell as some TV's
:_pirate
I use oldish players so i use MP3 due to my main codex being XviD:_party:_pirate...most compatable combo for any players/tv's etc.
Just my personal preference obviously...you'll prolly wanna use AAC for 1080p and 5.1 etc:_:D

 
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MadWatchdog:_moderator:Posted at 2022-10-25 02:30:43(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Not only Hardware but some media player won't play EAC3 audio, have to use vlc for such files, i prefer AAC audio too

 
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phunpsyz:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_junkie::_sun:Posted at 2022-10-25 16:37:27(121Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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been digging into specs of tvs, soundbars, and streaming devices, which I'm assuming* is the bulk of the equipment being used to watch my encodes, (sorry, no dvd or bluray players), and of course, one size does not fit all, who would ever want to make it that simple {yes, sarcasm}; now factoring in the preferred channels and bit rates, and it appears that ac3 for 5.1 is more compatible than aac, but aac still has solid compatibility for 2.0

way over thinking these things

thanks everyone

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EVILTEEN777:_trusted_user::_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-16 08:24:38(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Question:I'm encoding A 100 Episode TV pack so i want to make sure im doing it right - What bitrate is good for Ac3 5.1 channels?? Handbrake defaults to 224kb/s but from the research ive done 400 seems like the most commonly recommended rate. Any suggestions?

 
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Soup:_moderator:Posted at 2023-02-16 09:01:54(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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If I remember correctly when I used to encode bluray uploads with ac3 and 5.1 I always set it at 640 I think 🤔 which to me sounded excellent, overkill to some good to me. anyway I'm a great believer in quality over quantity. it's what your happy with yourself :_:)

 
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EVILTEEN777:_trusted_user::_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-16 09:22:57(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Soup wrote:

If I remember correctly when I used to encode bluray uploads with ac3 and 5.1 I always set it at 640 I think 🤔 which to me sounded excellent, overkill to some good to me. anyway I'm a great believer in quality over quantity. it's what your happy with yourself :_:)
In my case the source is DVD, not sure if that makes any difference.
My problem is I have no 5.1 channel system to test with😢 so i can only guess what sounds good or not.
Anyone else?

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Soup:_moderator:Posted at 2023-02-16 15:10:45(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Dvd I wouldn't go any lower than 192

 
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EVILTEEN777:_trusted_user::_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-16 21:10:27(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Soup wrote:

Dvd I wouldn't go any lower than 192
Guess i Will stick to the default 224kb/s then.
Thanks for the assistance Soup:_moderator:

 
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phunpsyz:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_male::_junkie::_sun:Posted at 2023-02-17 03:25:10(105Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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EVILTEEN777 wrote:

Guess i Will stick to the default 224kb/s then.
Thanks for the assistance Soup:_moderator:
a few thoughts
I would not exceed the original bitrate
imo AC3 does not sound as clean as AAC (including fdk & he-aac) but less likely to be transcoded using a 5.1 profile
and no matter what you decide, you will probably still get comments to change the bitrate and the codec

 
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RAV1NE:_trusted_uploader::_male::_junkie::_turtle:Posted at 2023-04-08 09:57:37(97Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Assuming a person's device can play back AAC, then they can play HE-AAC just fine. Although I would just use Opus instead, can't go wrong with it, it's currently the best lossy audio codec excluding USAC. And it's widely deployed everywhere.

 
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