please be factual when posting comments-In 1907, 78.3% of the Bolsheviks were Russian and 10% were Jewish; compared to 34% and 20% for the Mensheviks. Total Bolshevik membership was 8,400 in 1905, 13,000 in 1906, and 46,100 by 1907; compared to 8,400, 18,000 and 38,200 for the Mensheviks. By 1910, both factions together had fewer than 100,000 members. |
Guest-2971 said - "please be factual..." then goes on to quote the go-to "facts" on wikipedia! LMFAO! |
Many of the most important figures in the Bolshevik movement were Jewish. So whether their membership was at 10% or not, it doesn’t diminish the fact that Bolshevism was largely Jewish influenced. Furthermore, it is an accepted fact by even Jews that many Jews hid their religion and blended it to avoid “persecution”. |
Slava Ukraini the most corrupted country in Europe |
errmmmm Am I in history class or what? Can anyone tell me if this series is worth watching? Some of your comments btw are so far off it's actually funny Anyhow... Is it worth watching?? |
Ok, Yes, it's a fictional yarn based on Amor Towles' 2nd novel but the locations and Russian tradition of house arrest are realistic. (as is the for and against factionalism leading to the outcome of the Counts trial and conditions of incarceration) The performances and production value are outstanding having just the 1st ep to go by. McGregor eats the scenery and the Bolshi's are evil dudes as expected though some consider his character a hero of the revolution owing to a pro revolutionary poem he wrote before the event. This could either be a limited series or potentially ongoing if the producers so wish as the literary culmination is quite open ended. |
what kind of nonsense is this using black people in revolutionary russia?! how did mcgregor and other star actors agree to this woke idiocy? ruins whole veracity of show! oh, no, wait: they're speaking perfect british english in 1918 russia! wish this portrayal could have been minimally realistic... |
@yaseendb , oddly enough when the Bolshevik Revolution was occurring, the same thing happened in Turkey. The "Young Turk " movement which started out of Salonika, which was a Jewish stronghold in Turkey, forced Abdul Hamid II to abdicate the throne, same as what happened with the Czar of Russia under the bolsheviks.His brother stepped in to rule, but also was forced to step down. Again, the identical thing happened in Russia. When the Young Turks took power, that is when the Armenian Genocide occurred, under the "three Pashas " (Young Turk Govt.) |
Trotsky was an enigma. A bolshevik who while living in NYC, had 2 residences 1. on Vyse ave in the Bronx on the corner of E.181st, the other in the village in lower Manhattan that had a doorman. He was given 30 million to bankroll the revolution by Jacob Shiff, tried to smmugle it out through Canada and was caught and held by the Canadian Mounties,then turned over to US law enforcement. Trotsky miraculously was then able to be freed from custody and then sail on a steam liner back to Russia. So Fascinating is history, when you actually research it |
Ashkhenaz Jews state they're a Semitic people, but when you read their own explanation, they say they're descended from Japheth through Gomer, Shem is whom "Semites" descend from according to biblical text, not Japheth. So wouldn't they be Japhethites,not Semites? I'm confused. |
where did you get 'their own explanation'?! i'm an ashkenazi jew that's read the written Bible (never mind the Oral Tradition) and there's no such mention. we are descendants of Jacob and the Tribes who were exiled to Babylonia at the destruction of the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, and from there spread out to ashkenazi |
Well, yeah... only because we couldn't include all of these comments in S01E01 (we don't have time travel). However, these comments HAVE been included in the script for episode 2. If you don't believe me just wait for S01E02 and see your comment come out of an actor's mouth. |
I'm not Scottish,but I have been known to speak with a Scotch accent on occasion...Cheers! |
This is uneducated BS masquerading as intelligence. Here in modernity we would not denote them as "Russian Jews", merely Russians. They are Russians just as "African Americans" are Americans. Jews are not a race, they are a peoples. Now if you wanted to get into the nitty gritty of perceived wrongs done to peoples of a bygone era, you may want to genetically test the remains of those bygone peoples with their alleged descendants and if said wrongs were determined to have happened, and require some kind of recompense to right past wrongs, those peoples would qualify having pass the genetic litmus test. |
Well African Americans are Americans. How long would you have to live in a country to be considered part of the country? 400 years? 500? Most European Americans came in the 1920's, would you consider them Americans? |
DNA tests are illegal in Israel,outside of Gov't sanctioned ones. Outside of Israel, geneticists have labeled a specific DNA marker as Ashkenazi, which happens to be the ruling class amongst the Jewish population in Israel. Their own genetic marker outside of the rest of the Jewish diaspora, go figure. |
That's correct, as were the Mensheviks. However, propaganda sites like wikipedia lie about this & will try to tell you otherwise by saying jews were only a tiny part of each. The words even sound like yiddish if you put the main emphasis on the "shevik" part. It will be interesting to see how this series unfolds. |
@Guest-2036 - Saying Russian jew is like saying British African or Japanese Afghani. There's just no such thing. Just because you're born in a stable doesn't make you a horse. When you're a jew "returning" to Israel they DNA test for the jew part - there's no such thing as a Russian part & they know it. |
1. Trying to assert a connection between words like Bolshevik and Menshevik and Yiddish is beyond retarded. 2. Claiming that Israel tests repatriates' DNA is also beyond retarded. 3. Many revolutionaries were Jewish because they were educated and did not belong to aristocracy. Both were results of persecution. |
Not quite. Some had Jewish backgrounds, like Trotsky, but were self-loathing, like Marx, and rejected Jewish identity. Lenin was only a fraction Jewish, Stalin was Georgian. And to make Molotov-Rippentrop possible, Stalin purged what Jews were still there in 1939, esp. in the Foreign Ministry. |
Who cares? Why is is some people have an obsession talking about jews? |
Whilst not related to the film, I've been researching my birth parents. I'm an atheist, but have found that my grandmother may have been Jewish and Polish. Life is wierd! |
LOL. Who told you that? Your dad? Some bloke in a pub? Go on, who? |
@Guest-1666 And what is a Russian? Russia stretches all the way from Europe to Japan. There are no pure bloodlines anymore and probably never was, everyone is mixed more or less. What is a Jew? Someone with ancestors that once lived in Israel a thousand years ago or more? Someone following the Jewish religion? |