Non-Brits, and even Brits who weren't of certain generations, wont get how impactful Savile was. He was on the radio every day, he was on TV most days, and thousands of parents wrote tens of thousands of letter to get their kids onto Jim'll Fix It. If you were a kid growing up in 60s, 70s, and 80s, Britian, you knew who Jimmy Savile was, and most of you would have wanted to be on Jim'll Fix It. If you were an adult during that time, you knew who he was, and you most probably liked him. He was an icon, and his philanthropy and his celebrity opened any doors he wanted opening, to the point where he literally had sets of keys to children's wards in the hospitals he raised money for. When he died and everything came out, it was devastating news for so many people. Coogan, like myself, is Generation X, and he, like me, grew up with Savile being a permanent fixture in British media, and he, like me, will have been deeply hurt by the news. My mother phoned me after the news broke, and said, "Glad I never managed to get you on to Jim'll Fix It", and hearing something like that hits you with a "There but for the grace..." moment, and you realise that all across Britain, other people are having the exact same thoughts and feelings. Savile abused over 500 children THAT WE KNOW OF, and he had unprecedented and unparalleled access to the children of Britain for decades. Coogan wanting to do this isn't morbid, and it's certainly not a sign that Coogan himself is a nonce, it's something he's doing for the survivors of Savile and for those of us who have a scar across a part of our childhood. |
Watched the first episode, Steve Coogan gives a fantastic performance as Saville, that being said, i'm not sure I want to watch three more episodes of him abusing children and getting away with it. |
Man the show's they are making these days are Dark...I don't know who this guy was but i can tell that they are doing the same thing as they did when he was alive...Making money off his name...Its a pass for me..no good will come from watching this it changes nothing knowing that a child abuser existed and then died.. |
As a non-Brit my knowledge of Saville is limited, but enough to know this won't be an easy watch. Coogan's creepy-good. Curious to see the BBCs role in this. |
@Guest-9038 The BBC always had "Dark" shows - even if I prefer seeing them as full of sorrow, misery and despair. When the Catholic Church Child Abuse scandal broke, pretty much every drama storyline ended with child abuse as the underlying issue. Marital abuse (and rape) are well represented in their dramas. There are scores of Munchausen syndrome by proxy stories in BBC dramas. The only real criticism about them is that they have trends - a particular issue will be in vogue for a certain time period when they'll commission many shows with it. Afterwards they'll move onto another issue. Maybe BBC America takes over only the fluffier products of BBC UK (any 8+ episode show) so there is no visibility of these kind of shows. On the US market only "This is Us" approaches them, and even it is just a pale copy. But for me these are the quintessential kind of BBC dramas, the ones that you need to pause every 10min to process your feelings, and the reason why paying the license fee doesn't feel like a rip-off. |
We may judge him but he will never be punished! They should have named it something else. Britannica Dictionary definition of RECKONING 1 [noncount] : the act of calculating the amount of something. 2 a [noncount] : the time when your actions are judged as good or bad and you are rewarded or punished b [count] : the act of judging something — usually singular 3 [noncount] British : the group of people or things that are considered likely to win or be successful |
Yep, it is knowing that there is no 'reckoning' in on the cards (not in this lifetime anyway) for Savile that makes this so frustrating and painful to watch |
@Guest-9038 The BBC always had "Dark" shows - even if I prefer seeing them as full of sorrow, misery and despair. When the Catholic Church Child Abuse scandal broke, pretty much every drama storyline ended with child abuse as the underlying issue. Marital abuse (and rape) are well represented in their dramas. There are scores of Munchausen syndrome by proxy stories in BBC dramas. The only real criticism about them is that they have trends - a particular issue will be in vogue for a certain time period when they'll commission many shows with it. Afterwards they'll move onto another issue. Maybe BBC America takes over only the fluffier products of BBC UK (any 8+ episode show) so there is no visibility of these kind of shows. On the US market only "This is Us" approaches them, and even it is just a pale copy. But for me these are the quintessential kind of BBC dramas, the ones that you need to pause every 10min to process your feelings, and the reason why paying the license fee doesn't feel like a rip-off. |
So is this a mea culpa by BBC or they just shit on saville while washing their hands, i mean he brought literal tens if not hundreds of millions to the BBC in revenue, with him singlehandedly fund raising to watever cause. |
Clueless individual, Saville never fund raised for the BBC itself, which is paid for by a license fee. His philanthropy for charity acted as a shield against accusers being believed as well as offering him opportunities to exploit, which the BBC enabled and also bought into - decades ago. Not now. |
Did i said he fundraised to the bbc were? I clearly wrote he fundraised singlehandedly, better go back to school and take more english courses. |
Coogan's great for the older Savile (and the general creep vibe), but a more youthful actor would have been better for the early period to better convey Savile's youthful look (like Margot Robbie wasn't youthful enough to create the visceral disbelief that Tonya Harding would commit such violence). Is there a younger Marc Warren-like actor? |
Question..................... Why Would An Already Rich & Famous Man In The Spotlight.................... Want To Play The Character Of A Known Paedo. Questions.............. QuestionZ. |
Dunno Besides Steve Coogan the only other actors who could have played Savile so well are Mark Gatiss and Rory Kinnear (both also brilliant top-of-their-game character actors) |
It's called acting. He is portraying someone else. Kinda like how lawyer's will defend murderers without thinking that murder is OK or being a murderer themselves due to their respect for the process of the law. |
Sarcasm ahead people >> Are you serious Baxx? Why on Earth would Michael C. Hall want to play a serial killer for years on end? Maybe he's a frustrated mass-murderer? Serious questions need to be asked... or maybe his bank balance just needs another season of Dexter |