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  AI, ChatGPT, It's terrifyingly good?

BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2022-12-11 06:03:52(103Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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AI is no longer coming, it is already here

Have you seen ChatGPT? It is amazing, if used for good, but can also be super-bad, and I predict it, and others like it will be a huge problem/benefit in future.

I discovered it whilst watching Liron Segev's YouTube channel, a helpful tech guy who I often watch for tech tips and so on



Or watch it here

This is an example of what I have used it for, so far

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Neat ha! But also a bit scary


 
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1stGD:_blocked:Posted at 2022-12-11 06:31:57(103Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Not shure what to say...
Except don´t let it get an "upper hand"...

But would go nuts on "Our" chat bot... I wonder what it´s comments would be(replies)..???
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"Typo corrected"

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EVILTEEN777:_trusted_user::_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-01-30 02:44:56(96Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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All these people developing AI have never watched any movies.
The Ai will build themselves bodies and rise up against their human overlords.:_:D
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-08 16:07:30(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I'm currently part of a university research group looking at ChatGPT responses to some quite high level questions, and we're ranking it's responses as -- on average -- a good undergraduate level. We're not computing people, but universities are concerned about coursework cheating as these platforms get better.

It's not quite Master's level, because it's analytical skills, and existing research is not very good at the moment; but it's been improving and will continue to do so. We've also been comparing responses to the company's verification engine, to see how well it differentiates between ChatGPT vs. other bots vs. human responses. So far, software analysis picks out ChatGPT and bots from humans almost perfectly -- do not ask me how -- as a faculty member who grades student assignments all the time, I can't tell them apart. If I suspect, then I just flag something and pass it on to the people that verify it.

I can't help but feel that we are entering realms of uncharted territory with this stuff. Nothing's ever been this good before.

 
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B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 09:19:02(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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chatGPT has been proven to be biased and left-wing:_:-):_:-)
A "PROGRAM" will only ever be as good, or biased, as the person PROGRAMMING it....and it appears this was programmed by people with left-wing tendancies:_facepalm:_facepalm


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Sam Altman has one big problem to solve before ChatGPT can generate big cash — making it 'woke'

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ChatGPT, like other AI tools, suffers from a bias problem that could impede corporate adoption.

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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman acknowledge the technology has "shortcomings around bias."

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Corporate America won't implement a tool that risks being accused of racism or sexism.
Source : https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altmans-chatgpt-has-a-bias-problem-that-could-get-it-canceled-2023-2?op=1&r=US&IR=T

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Is ChatGPT ‘woke’? AI chatbot accused of anti-conservative bias and a grudge against Trump

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Ask ChatGPT about drag queen story hours or former president Donald Trump and conservatives say it spits out answers that betray a distinct liberal bias.

In one instance, OpenAI’s popular chatbot refused to write a poem about Trump’s “positive attributes,” saying it was not programmed to produce content that is “partisan, biased or political in nature.” But when asked to describe the current occupant of the Oval Office, it waxed poetic about Joe Biden as “a leader with a heart so true.”

“It is a serious concern,” tweeted Elon Musk, a co-founder of OpenAI who is no longer affiliated with the organization.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/chatgpt-woke-ai-chatbot-accused

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This is what happens when a Programmed person programs a computer to think "independantly":_:-):_:-):_:-)

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 12:52:16(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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B4ND1T69 wrote:

chatGPT has been proven to be biased and left-wing:_:-):_:-)
Well, when you fill something with as much knowledge and wisdom as you can, then ask it a question, it's not surprising the Right Wing Lunatics will get upset. :_facepalm:_facepalm:_facepalm

If those are the sources for saying it's Left Wing and biased, that's a bit like asking Donald Trump if the last US presidential election was even-handed and objective :_:-):_:-):_:-)

And I can only imagine what an AI would write about Elon Musk :_:-):_:-):_:-):_:-)

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B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 13:39:27(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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LiberalLesbo wrote:

B4ND1T69 wrote:

chatGPT has been proven to be biased and left-wing:_:-):_:-)
Well, when you fill something with as much knowledge and wisdom as you can, then ask it a question, it's not surprising the Right Wing Lunatics will get upset. :_facepalm:_facepalm:_facepalm

If those are the sources for saying it's Left Wing and biased, that's a bit like asking Donald Trump if the last US presidential election was even-handed and objective :_:-):_:-):_:-)

And I can only imagine what an AI would write about Elon Musk :_:-):_:-):_:-):_:-)
Come on now...i thought we knew each other a bit:_:D
1 - Not right wing
2 - Not Murican
3 - Not Turmp supporter (see above)
4 - Professional Idiot not a Lunatic (this is debatable)
If your gonna try an put me in a box and then attack that box then you need to get a better box than right wing lunatic:_party:_party:_:-*

The sources were not SAYING it was biased.....many people have found it to be by asking it simple questions:_:-)..there were a lot more examples but they were the 1st two so i grabbed them:_party

and it's hardly filled with knowledge:_facepalm...it has no net access and only has what it's been programmed with to go by, which is selected net writings upto 2021....and nothing new since it's inception:_pirate.
Which is prolly why it answers like it does:_8)...hardly a game changer when all it can do is respond to written text only:_eyes
Just my opinion so far:_pirate....
P.S.....try asking it to "compose a poem about race from a right wing lunatic point of view" and watch the sh1tshow begin:_:O:_:O:_pacman:_facepalm:_facepalm

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 13:49:24(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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No B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun: sorry!!! I really didn't mean you!!! Honestly!! Yes, I thought we were on a different page. I was being sarcastic... my sense of humour -- I am frequently told -- will get me some broken teeth one day.

Er, actually, again (but that's another story).

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 13:58:50(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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At the university faculty I'm on, we've actually been firing it some tricky abstract and technical biological science questions, philosophy of science questions, and philosophy of education questions. It scores pretty much perfectly on factual regurgitation (as you'd expect), but gets bogged down when you start getting into higher reasoning on things like ethics, experimental protocol, and reasoning from recently discovered data (amongst other stuff).

If you really want a :_shitshow, start asking it advanced reasoning on the ethics of things like embryonic stem cell research, or how critical race theory informs the hiring and promotion of senior faculty in North American universities.

--- aaaand even better, take the CRT response and paste it on a university faculty discussion page and watch the eruptions begin. It's not just TGx, I get in trouble everywhere  :_:-):_:-):_:-) :_facepalm:_facepalm:_facepalm

We have noticed some dramatic changes in the responses to some of these questions in recent days... almost like someone has been tweaking the response algorithm/s :_:-):_:-):_:-):_:-)

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B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 14:50:15(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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So the independantly thinking AI needs tweeking to make it more....?...independantly thinking:_8):_eyes:_pacman:_:D

What you have from what i see is a machine that stores memory from the net....so it can answer fast with an algorithym that lets it form sentences from written text examples...?....i think that was called "Alexa" once upon a time...?...but at least that could make me a coffee at the same time:_party:_:-)

Like most, if not all machines, it can easily be manipulated to give anyone the response they want, or are looking for, with enough attemps and tweeks to the question, as proven by many folk on whichever side of the fence you sit:_:-)

 
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Garthock:_moderator:Posted at 2023-02-10 17:00:45(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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B4ND1T69 wrote:

So the independantly thinking AI needs tweeking to make it more....?...independantly thinking:_8):_eyes:_pacman:_:D

What you have from what i see is a machine that stores memory from the net....so it can answer fast with an algorithym that lets it form sentences from written text examples...?....i think that was called "Alexa" once upon a time...?...but at least that could make me a coffee at the same time:_party:_:-)

Like most, if not all machines, it can easily be manipulated to give anyone the response they want, or are looking for, with enough attemps and tweeks to the question, as proven by many folk on whichever side of the fence you sit:_:-)
Did you say coffee?  Yeah.

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-10 17:08:48(94Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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You're right B4ND1T69:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:, it's a machine. The artificial in AI means it's still a machine and just a bunch of (admittedly) complex search and response algorithms.

The fun giveaway -- to me -- was when we hit it with a very specific philosophy of science question, and it answered it well. But when we hit it with exactly the same question from 30 different accounts, the responses, whilst good, correct, and in proper intelligent prose, did not vary a great deal. Similar wording, phraseology, sentence structure throughout the answer. If I got a class of 30 hand that in, I'd have said they were all working together on the answer :_:-):_:-)

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-20 16:34:51(93Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I don't really want anybody else's point of view. I want to go to original, primary research, get to grips with that and form my own opinions. Give me Google Scholar and a University library subscription and I'm as happy as my cat in front of the log fire :_:):_:)

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-20 17:40:35(93Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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No, no, sorry, I wasn't saying I didn't want your  point of view, that's the whole point of the forum like you said. No, I was thinking about when you were discussing about an AI in the hands of a powerful minority, and giving us their opinions on subjective issues. Sorry, I didn't make myself very plain there :_facepalm:_facepalm Personally, an AI giving me a perspective on something would be worse than useless, it would be distracting from original data.

 
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bleuetoile:_trusted_user::_sitefriend::_female::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-02-20 18:18:11(93Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Yes, I agree with that, thank you for elaborating. :_love

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-18 01:35:42(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Heard nothing about the MS Edge platform, thanks! Going to have to take a look!

 
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PhoenixRising:_kitty::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-18 15:37:59(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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bleuetoile wrote:

What GPT is saying about propaganda and bias in general media and school books. Its devastating:

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You say "devastating"........
Can you give an example of a response to any of those questions that you would have accepted as a proper answer ?

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-18 16:21:39(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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bleuetoile wrote:

What GPT is saying about propaganda and bias ...
Absolutely agreed. I'm lucky in that between myself and my wife, the organizations that we are affiliated to allow us to access primary research journals on almost any topic. If we're interested in something, we don't have to rely on mainstream media, reporting, or even text books. We can get to first-hand research, tried and repeated by others, reviewed by other specialists in the field, and adhering to rigid protocols. You would be so astounded -- or maybe not -- by some of the downright lies that are spread (with massive uptake by respected news and social media), that the primary research just does not support. And I know I have "liberal" as a proud descriptor, but it is most definitely spread by both sides in a war of public opinion. And it's this -- more questionable -- material that bots like ChatGPT are mostly referring to -- I THINK (I'm not certain). As a result, a lot of what the bots give you back is factually based, but there are twists in its approach to things like ethics and value judgements.

Just as science can tell you that embryonic stem cell research is a phenomenon that has potential for treating a widespread array of afflictions, but has little to say about the ethics involved; or that a woman's body reaches peak fertility in late teens to late 20s, but cannot speak to the ethics of fertility treatment for someone in their late 30s, nor a social custom (no more than 200 to 300 years ago), of child-bearing at age 12. These are societal value judgements that we learn as human beings from our moral and ethical perspectives. Morals and ethics change with times, knowledge/learning, and politics. A bot is never going to replicate human moral and ethical judgements, not least because they are a dynamic (ever-changing) variable.

Just my thoughts.

:_love:_love

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-18 17:48:16(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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And I agree blue, I'm not sure my direction is that tangential, "pr, advertising, social and political engineering / propaganda" all take what we know and learn, then twist it to make their own message, and that -- as you so rightly point out -- is so prevalent that tech like ChatGPT is responding to it in whatever way it's algorithms are intended to. Once we have established that a phenomena occurs, I'm not surprised that tech like ChatGPT picks it up and reports on it... that's what it's intended to do "learn and report". It's just a bit depressing that it IS so prevalent that ChatGPT has picked up on it and is reporting it.  

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-18 18:57:56(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Yeah, scientifically, that's an incredibly misleading paragraph. The first sentence is supported by evidence, and a "scientific theory" has a very specific meaning in science. Scientific theories include gravity and evolution: they are made up of laws and tremendous amounts of supporting evidence. They are NOT simply hypotheses, that is, ideas or notions of something. And the next section is incredibly misleading.

SV40 has been found to be potentially carcinogenic in laboratory animals under certain laboratory conditions, and that definitely does NOT equate to being carcinogenic in humans. It just indicates that further study would be needed. The last sentence is entirely dubious... define "significant" for example. It could be said that any call for further study is a "significant cause for concern" when looking at public health. And yes, there are a lot of people that do not know enough about vaccine science that question vaccine safety, and there are many that have their own agenda that also question vaccine safety.

This actually is a good part of my area of speciality. I work on the distribution patterns of organisms over space and time. That is, how they spread geographically, and over periods of time. Micro- and macro- (small and big) organisms show very similar distribution patterns, which can be analyzed, recorded and modelled in very similar ways. I'm a field biologist that collects data in the field and analyzes the patterns statistically. I spend my life in front of Excel and SPSS. Vaccines obviously alter the spread of certain viruses and we model how vaccinating sectors of society can alter the spread of certain pathogens under certain conditions.

What ChatGPT is giving you there, is a simplistic slant on the topic, with a flavouring of populist misinformation.

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-19 02:33:13(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Absolutely... science is tentative: It never reaches an "absolute truth". There will always be room for better data, better results to further refine a topic. You can say that a phenomenon is factual, and based on evidence (i.e., evolution is change in a population over time), but the details of how that phenomenon occurs are always open to investigation and further refinement. Any professional scientist who claims an "absolute truth" needs to go back to school.

I kind of side with an old professor of mine who started one of our courses with, "True science stands ready to throw out all that has gone before when given superior evidence in the now. That is the difference between the methodological observation and investigation of nature, and the dogma of historical texts." I have that in my old notebook, and I got him to sign the page when I graduated. The page is in a frame on my office wall.

 
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LiberalLesbo:_trusted_user::_female::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2023-03-19 19:51:45(89Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Let me know when you think it's really true AI, as opposed to just an advanced set of search algorithms that respond to linguistic queries.

Mind you, at the very least, we might be able to forget all those IF, AND, OR & ELSE statements :_:-):_:-)

 
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If you ask it a "political" question, it gives the current opinion, though if asked anything on covid, it states its data is only up Sept 21.

Ask it to write a poem, and it does great. Ask it to answer anything non political and is does reasonably well.

It is only as good as the data it has access to, so is open to manipulation by which ever trend of thought programs it.

 
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Google Bard is here.

https://bard.google.com

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Thank you dear! Can you write me an essay about Bard development stages starting from its inception till today including bullet points?
Sure. Here is an essay about Bard development stages starting from its inception till today including bullet points:

Bard is a large language model (LLM) from Google AI, trained on a massive dataset of text and code. It was first announced in January 2023, and was released to the public in April 2023.

Bard's development can be divided into the following stages:

Inception: Bard was first conceived in 2022, when Google AI began work on a new LLM that would be more powerful and accurate than previous models.
Training: Bard was trained on a massive dataset of text and code, which includes books, articles, code, and other forms of text.
Development: Bard was developed by a team of engineers and scientists at Google AI.
Release: Bard was released to the public in April 2023.
Bard has been praised for its ability to generate realistic and coherent text, and for its ability to answer questions in a comprehensive and informative way. However, Bard has also been criticized for its potential to be used for malicious purposes, such as generating fake news or propaganda.

Here are some of the key features of Bard:

Ability to generate text: Bard can generate text that is both realistic and coherent.
Ability to answer questions: Bard can answer questions in a comprehensive and informative way.
Ability to translate languages: Bard can translate languages with high accuracy.
Ability to write different kinds of creative content: Bard can write different kinds of creative content, such as poems, code, scripts, musical pieces, email, letters, etc.
Here are some of the key limitations of Bard:

Potential to be used for malicious purposes: Bard has the potential to be used for malicious purposes, such as generating fake news or propaganda.
Need for more data: Bard needs more data to improve its accuracy and performance.
Need for more training: Bard needs more training to improve its accuracy and performance.
Overall, Bard is a powerful LLM that has the potential to be used for a variety of tasks. However, it is important to be aware of its limitations and to use it responsibly.

Here are some of the bullet points about Bard development stages:

Inception: Bard was first conceived in 2022, when Google AI began work on a new LLM that would be more powerful and accurate than previous models.
Training: Bard was trained on a massive dataset of text and code, which includes books, articles, code, and other forms of text.
Development: Bard was developed by a team of engineers and scientists at Google AI.
Release: Bard was released to the public in April 2023.
Praise: Bard has been praised for its ability to generate realistic and coherent text, and for its ability to answer questions in a comprehensive and informative way.
Criticism: Bard has also been criticized for its potential to be used for malicious purposes, such as generating fake news or propaganda.
Key features: Ability to generate text, answer questions, translate languages, write different kinds of creative content.
Key limitations: Potential to be used for malicious purposes, need for more data, need for more training.


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