B4ND1T69       Posted at 2024-06-06 14:12:22(24Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| You too chickadee  Your very engaging, thanks for the exchange of views    | |
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| DerangedSeaOwlPosted at 2024-06-06 17:45:55(24Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| The jury was unanimous on all counts of falsifying business records for the purpose of committing or concealing another crime. That other crime is concealing a violation of Election Law Section 17-152. They don't need to be unanimous on the criminal means by which he concealed the violation. The charges were based on 34 misdemeanors (34 instances of creating fraudulent business documents). They were elevated to felonies because the documents were falsified to cover up another crime: violation of Election Law Section 17-152 (Conspiracy to promote or prevent election). The jury was presented with 3 means by which he intended to violate the Election Law. The means (though they are, in and of themselves, crimes) were NOT charged. They were just presented as evidence of the intention to violate the election law. The jury doesn’t have to be unanimous on WHICH of the 3 means were used, just that one or more of the means were used in furtherance of the crime. The 3 options presented to the jury were (1) other falsified documents, (2) FEC violations, (3) tax law violations. Analogy: Conspiracy to commit murder. Some buddies agree to break into a house to kill someone. They break in (trespassing). They fail to commit the murder - the victim wasn’t around. They get caught and one of them confesses, providing recordings and other evidence showing that they were conspiring to commit a murder. The trespassing is raised to a felony because of the intent to commit murder. At trial, the conspirators are shown to have been carrying a gun, a knife, and a noose. The jury has to agree they trespassed in order to commit murder. The jury does NOT have to agree how the murder would have happened. The analogy here is as follows: A. Trespassing ------- A. Falsifying documents B. Murder (raises A to a felony) ------- B. New York election law (raises A to a felony) **C. Noose, knife, gun ("means" intended to achieve B) ------- C. Other falsified documents, FEC violations, tax law violations ("means" intended to achieve B) ** Note on C - If any jury member thought all 3 means were actually toys and not weapons (or that there weren't any other fasle docs, FEC violations, or tax law violations), the charges could not be bumped up. The analogy is imperfect and oversimplified, but it should help clarify where unanimity WAS required (A & B) and where the jury was allowed to differ (C - as long as some element of C was present). There had to be total agreement that AT LEAST one of the 3 "means" was used with the intention of violating NY Election Law, but the jury could have different opinions on which means were used. | |
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| DerangedSeaOwlPosted at 2024-06-06 19:05:20(24Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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Balerion + SuperbikemikeIf one option is a ticking time-bomb, wouldn't you vote for a literal pineapple for president if it would prevent a vengeful narcissistic sociopath with a victim complex from taking power? At least a pineapple wouldn't cause massive global damage. It would just sit there. Being a pineapple. A sweet, non-sadistic pineapple. ---- To be clear, I don't think Biden is a pineapple. The presidency is not about reflex time or sprinting ability (think FDR in a wheelchair from polio -- undoubtedly among the most significant global heads of state in the past 100 years). It's about temperament, judgment, humility, a sense of national service and the goal of advancing the public good. All qualities Biden embodies. Even if I'm often disappointed with his policies, I never have to worry that he WANTS to hurt people. One need not LIKE Biden to vote against Trump. A write in vote is the same as staying home. A 3rd party vote is the same as staying home. It shouldn't be, but the US has a winner-take-all system which defaults to a binary. This does a really good job explaining why that's the reality: https://youtu.be/bqWwV3xk9Qk?si=agmZlaaZf0kNpWDv A vote FOR "A" is a vote AGAINST "B". Any vote that does NOT go to Biden will, by definition, help Trump (we can all thank the anti-democratic-by-design Electoral College for that). If we abolish the electoral college and switch to a national popular vote, you should feel totally empowered to vote for any rando you feel like or sit it out. Till then, please don't help a emotionally infantile megalomaniac assume control. 😅😳😣 (this is said with earnest kindness… just wanted to say that up front bc the internet is the death of nuance and tone and I'd hate to be misunderstood😘) | |
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| B4ND1T69Posted at 2024-06-07 12:02:35(24Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| For those who would like to get some voting practise in before november....    ...Vote NOW!!!Voting Closes at Midnight Sunday 8th June   This post was sponsored by "bigboybumps" in association with the "Milkshake Boys in the Yard Foundation" | |
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| 4N1N3T33NPosted at 2024-06-13 14:05:55(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-13 14:53:19(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Is any of that *really* true though? How about if the above had such a presence that all of the other countries calmed the fuck down? There *is* a finger on the button...do you want someone who makes people think twice... ...or someone that shits himself. | |
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| PhoenixHunterPosted at 2024-06-13 15:21:47(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Yes, it's really true and the only one shitting himself is donald trump ahead of his sentencing for 34 unanimous felony counts on july 11th 2024 Also, given what's known, a person would have to be completely out of touch with reality to think trump should actually be the POTUS. | |
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-13 17:17:04(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| So you were a Trump supporter before the recent legal issues? | |
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| PhoenixHunterPosted at 2024-06-13 19:03:46(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| "No" Im a registered independent and i have an open mind. trump was a populist candidate, he was unknown politically before 2016. Soon after election he showed his true colors. He is unfit to be president and everyone knows that including Republicans due to an enormous amount of evidence. The Republicans that are voting for him are doing so while holding their noses because they have become tribal. The hell with democracy, rule of law and the constitution of the usa. They will vote for him because he is a Republican and that's all that matters. Given what we know today about trump, the idea that he should be the POTUS, commander in chief of the american military is totally absurd to the extreme. | |
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| Tyser11Posted at 2024-06-13 19:16:17(23Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| It's not my country of residents or origen but instead of trump, Biden, blah blah ECT ECT... Why don't the USA just vote these guys in! President and vice president? Like I mean come on let's face it, you would have more luck with these guys! 😁😂  Last edited by Tyser11 on 2024-06-13 19:17:31 | |
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| DerangedSeaOwlPosted at 2024-06-19 21:42:03(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Let's assume for a moment that the completely absurd assertion that Biden shits himself were true... Yes, I would still prefer him. Incontinence would not be a disqualifying quality for president. INCOMPETENCE, on the other hand. And as for making other countries "think twice".... A chimpanzee with an assault rifle will also make others think twice. That doesn't mean I want to give a chimp a deadly weapon. Fear is a really primitive and pathetic way to maintain peace. Mutual respect (something Trump is constitutionally incapable of eliciting) is far more effective. If fear of irrational military aggression were effective deterrents, North Korea and Russia would be the most desirable places to live. And you seem to be losing sight of the fact that there are Americans in this situation in addition to "all the other countries". MAYBE (thats a big maybe) other countries would be hesitant to provoke a mad man at the helm, but what happens when he turns his irrational ire on his own people (as he's promised to do). America's most critical allies all across Europe are already making contingency plans for the possibility that he returns to power. Imagining a world where the US is no longer a reliable, trusted nation. You think other countries are acting up now? What do you think it would look like when America is STILL hated, but has lost all credibility on the world stage? They're rightly saying that 1 Trump term might have been a fluke. Voting him in again would show that Americans have lost our collective minds and are no longer worth the risk. But at least there'd be an angry toddler with his greasy little finger on the button, right? | |
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-19 23:59:18(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Cool. Why do you care? | |
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| DerangedSeaOwlPosted at 2024-06-20 00:39:48(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Because I live in America. And I'm embarrassed when I speak with family and friends who live elsewhere and they say "what your president did... blah blah blah". And when countries elect a demagogue, it doesn't end well for them. If the US re-elects THIS demagogue, it won't end well for anyone. America is one of the handful of countries whose self-destruction would have a cascading negative impact on a global scale. Just trying to avoid that particular flavor of catastrophe 🤞 | |
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-20 01:12:07(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| So you're embarrassed? | |
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| SuperbikemikePosted at 2024-06-20 01:27:33(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| had a falling out after he got busted Trump says he was never on Epstein’s plane or ‘stupid island we know its false his sig is in the islands log and the chick that said she was raped when she was 13 what about her ... lets not forget the interview he did saying i love ebstine hes a great guy he has all the girls.. everyone knows hes child molester. lets go with paid a hooker to sign a nda over money paid out common man ... no fkin morals at all we need someone else and yall to brain dead to actually get someone else both fkin guys are the pure definition of knobheads...  | |
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-20 01:44:44(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| There is a stink, across the west...it smells of need for power, control and money. | |
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| DerangedSeaOwlPosted at 2024-06-20 03:06:36(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Yes. It was embarrassing to be represented by a complete moron with unlimited unearned confidence. Before Trump, it would have seemed inconceivable that the leaders of peer nations would literally laugh out loud at the President of the United States. Even when I found the policy decisions of previous presidents to be reprehensible, I never felt embarrassed like this. I knew our reputation had taken a justifiable hit with Bush. But Trump just made us a punch line. I have no trouble admitting that the US has made terrible mistakes. It's only shameful if we refuse to learn from them. I'm holding onto hope that I'll be able to maintain my faith in the American citizenry beyond November. | |
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-20 04:02:24(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| FoxbasePosted at 2024-06-20 09:51:47(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Okay - I've slept now...so, to make it clear...I'm not from the US, so don't have a dog in the race...beyond, who over there has their finger on the button. From my perspective, re: right leaning UK media...there seems/seemed to be an awful lot of horror stories about trump, yet nothing happened...and we get an awful lot of horror stories about the corruption in the US governing class - the bidens, the clintons. Trump was accused of Russian collusion - but it turned out that the clintons had ties there...and the bidens have various shady ties with China and ukraine...there was a big fuss made about Jan 6th, yet, there is a smell over the whole thing that indicates it was more likely a hit job than a failed coup. We, and the world, see Biden as a laughing stock - but trump was portrayed more as a loose cannon...certainly, he was/is hated by the left, but it's from the people who stand to lose if he drains the swamp rather than legitimate fair evidence. Of course - the media is always spinning its own fairytales...the crazy BBC will attack trump and defend biden... Personally - I see the whole thing as theatre and distraction...it's very unusual and telling when, say the BBC, run a story about, say the need for internet censorship...and then every other media outlet in the west runs the exact same story within seconds...often using the same words...also very odd that much of the west is having similar problems re: immigration, climate taxes...and all having right-wing swings as a result. Last edited by Foxbase on 2024-06-20 10:50:53 | |
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| SuperbikemikePosted at 2024-06-20 17:10:38(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| MassModzPosted at 2024-06-20 17:17:08(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| I'm going to have to agree with Foxbase, it's all bread and circus tactics to keep the population distracted to the fact that there is corruption in all facets of government and society. This is also prevalent throughout history from the way numerous/countless governments take advantage of their people. Not one instance in history will you hear of any government that did right by their people - in fact it's always the complete opposite. It all comes down to greed. Someone wants more power. This is why I personally have a very strong opinion that picking political sides is part of the problem in the first place, you cannot and should not believe that one mans policies or decisions is ever going to improve the lives of 330,000,000 other people, it's unrealistic. I firmly believe that the world as a whole should be governed by the worlds most intelligent people (i.e. mensa) as opposed to psychopaths that are power hungry, manipulative, and parisitic. Last edited by MassModz on 2024-06-20 17:20:15 | |
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| miokPosted at 2024-06-20 17:19:05(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| And then you die. Nobody gets out alive.  | |
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| MassModzPosted at 2024-06-20 17:21:45(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Would make a good horror movie  | |
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| miokPosted at 2024-06-20 17:23:05(22Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| panosolPosted at 2024-06-28 22:56:31(21Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Ok...then it was a joke! We laughed a lot... But...again?! Now?! Now...and under the specific global circumstances (Ukraine, Gaza, etc.), Alas, this will be the worst nightmare! Unfortunately...for good or bad, US still largely holds the fates of the world! On the other side, the other grandpa is also not an option...he is so...woefully elsewhere... In a so big and great country, i wonder...aren't exist any worthy young (or younger) politicians?! We also in Europe, have our own problems, and demons, with the rise of the far right, all over Europe... And in combination with Trump in leadership of US again.... just play with your worst imagination. Now...we will not laugh. It must not be done again. | |
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