Shadow  Posted at 2020-02-11 13:18:13(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| I checked their pricing and seems like they are generally way cheaper than other VPNs around but the thing which is contradicting Torrentgalaxy and their TOS is suspicious to me Can someone from their customer support confirm/deny those statements before I and probably others purchase their VPN? PS: I don't generally trust any VPN (Including NordVPN, ExpressVPN, PIA, etc. ) to have zero log privacy. As in real time all those dedicated servers which they use for their VPN have current access logs which are mess, but if someone with enough tech knowledge can access them, they can pin-point those and track the real users behind them. But the only concern here is about suspending your account for torrenting. Torrentalaxy: Torrent friendly Unlimited P2P bandwidth VPNArea: Basically saying they will suspend your account if some company files DMCA takedown against IP address from their VPN. Torrentalaxy: No logs! Strict zero logs policy VPNArea: How they can know if I posted some spam article? To determine someone's usage pattern they have to // log every single user with timestamp real ip address server to which you are connected on their vpn your account id on their vpn and every url you have visited with query string. (eg site.com/submit/article/43245235/) then filter your IP and see how you used their VPN. This is like complete tracking. Even if they have to keep logs due to Bulgaria being part of European Union, they shouldn't suspend their users for things they promote. It's really unfair to give them 88$ and get yourself suspended for false claims. Last edited by Shadow on 2020-02-11 13:56:39 | |
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battlestar  Posted at 2020-02-11 14:20:26(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Thats just legal mumbo jumbo that they have to put up to keep everyone happy. Have you ever read the notification on this site ? :D | |
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| ShadowPosted at 2020-02-11 14:32:42(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Might be true, but then it's still not nice to threat their customers with suspension. Technically that's correct. (Hence why piratebay doesn't adhere to copyright claims.) Only images can be breaking law here because they are hosted and stored on torrent galaxy servers. .torrent is just encoded metadata with pieces such as hash url / torrent size / file pieces / trackers / dht / privte/public torrent / etc. which is getting decoded inside torrent client and connects to the peers which have the same metadata inside their torrent client and share the file altogether to each other. Basically this site is just a messenger which connects those people together, those people have the files, this site doesn't. | |
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| miokPosted at 2020-02-11 14:37:45(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Obviously we (or any other torrent site) don't host any copyrighted material. That would be suicide. | |
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| ShadowPosted at 2020-02-11 14:48:33(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| And foremost as people over vpn tend to abuse its service with all kind of nasty stuff and if they indeed keep logs and gets their servers seized by law enforcement (actually happened to big hosting providers all the time for botnet and nasty stuff people host) how long they store the logs for? (They explictly said to have means to find users who use their vpn for bad stuff) Because that would really screw over both good consumers and bad one as many people can connect over same IP address on the VPN. Bulgaria is part of the EU and they have a cybercrime department. Meaning if the server with IP xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx did some very nasty shit, they will raid the datacenter and seize that server. (At this point VPNArea is powerless and can't delete logs or wipe server or anything // Even if server is encrypted, the server disk can be cloned because encryption key is still active within RAM and with physical access to the server they can clone it and get everything from the server while it's still ON and has active power supply) Then use it to inspect and find the person who did it. So logs there will pin point to multiple users which whre connected to that exact server and boom you get screwed because someone else did something nasty and you were unlucky to be on same server. Last edited by Shadow on 2020-02-11 15:03:57 | |
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| joeb1kenbarbiePosted at 2020-02-11 15:12:48(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| I started using PIA about 4 years ago. I got flagged a couple of times by my isp before that using a private tracker and no DHT, local peer, etc. with my client, but not a single issue since PIA. Seedbox was next on the list but all is well. | |
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| zeke23Posted at 2020-02-11 15:34:43(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| i have used PIA also with good results till i started uploading then it was a different story, i did have a lot of help from them, i think anyone using a VPN needs to go slow and be careful when buying there are people here that can help maybe they will jump in, good luck to you all!! | |
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| VPNAreaPROMOPosted at 2020-02-11 15:59:56(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| These suspicions are based on a misunderstanding. No VPN provider wants their network abused or be accused of encouraging illegal activities. To cover bases it's common practice to disallow illegal activities. That does not mean logs are being kept. It only means the provider will not be an accessory to whatever you might be planning to do. This is not concerning. No logs are kept. As example I'll show you Private Internet Access and ExpressVPN also have the same policy. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/terms-of-service/
https://www.expressvpn.com/tos
It's the same everywhere. If you have any more questions regarding this. Please open a ticket on the VPNArea site. https://vpnarea.com/front/home/contacts/ Last edited by VPNAreaPROMO on 2020-02-11 16:02:10 | |
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| miokPosted at 2020-02-11 16:41:01(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| The people trying to sell you a VPN need to post the TOS mumbo jumbo to please the powers that be and stay legal. If they had any intention of enforcing it, they wouldn't be advertising on torrent sites. Keeping activity logs is a different story. That's why "free" VPNs should be avoided. If something sounds to good to be true, it usually is. You get what you pay for and There are many more providers than there used to be, as a result, the prices have become very competitive. A reliable VPN can cost less than taking the family to the theater a couple times. A small price to pay for the peace of mind of knowing your activities are at least reasonably private. | |
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| ShadowPosted at 2020-02-11 17:58:29(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| I want to thank @VPNArea for responding here. It will probably help people to get better overview. --- Also, here's the note from @Matt, the exit node TOR operator For everyone: Please don't use TOR network for torrenting, that really makes you a piece of shit. VPN vs your ISP VPN vs a government
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| bombegranatePosted at 2020-02-11 18:08:35(249Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| As far as i know VPNArea doesn't support Port Forwarding, which makes it a bit unsuitable for torrening IMO... | |
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| GladiusPosted at 2020-03-14 10:15:48(244Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| well thumb rule is dont trust anybody, if they want to hunt you they will :?:? Depends on your online activities though, dowloading torrent is no big deal u can just use a simple paid vpn like nord or PIA or Express etc | |
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| SuperbikemikePosted at 2020-03-22 21:47:55(243Wks ago) Report Permalink URL | ||
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| Basically saying they will suspend your account if some company files DMCA takedown against IP address from their VPN. thats says it all.... they log your ip to there server ip and thats how they can tell .... :P | |
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