Why do seeds go to zero

loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-21 20:27:40(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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My seed numbers are not high.  But I like to know that the list I have have has everything active at least.
I see one at  Zero where I know my client is seeding it and it is showing at TGx.  Why is it showing empty?  I tried to update seed stats.  Would a refresh/update of the tracker list in the torrent get it show as active?  While I'm waiting for any replies I'll try the list I have currently.

It's this item:

https://torrentgalaxy.to/torrent/13839171/Red-Hot-1993-directed-by-Paul-Haggis

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Prom3th3uS:_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 20:38:38(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I believe we discussed this earlier, I don't remember the username if it was you or someone else.

Always trust your torrent client, as for me, I can see 3 per 3 trackers, I started your torrent, and other trackers error's showing ''No such host found'' looks a temp error.

TGx stats: It updates the seeds/leech from 1 working/active tracker on the spot, so have patient it will get updated sooner or later!

Lastly,  remember the tracker goes off and on for a short while, usual errors like connection time out, host not found, and sometimes due to broken connection between network or behind the tracker machine, simply, update the tracker via client to see the changes only if the tracker not stopped permanently, it will start working again, But as I can see you have used the best working trackers so there is nothing to worry & try to use 15 of them, you can still add 7 more. Cheers!

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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 21:29:04(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I'm trying to dld the torrent you have linked to above, but not getting anything down after 30 odd mins. My client is showing 0(2) seeds and as prom3th3us says you have 3 per 3 trackers with your other 3 trackers timing out.

 
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Prom3th3uS:_male::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 21:40:05(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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sherb wrote:

I'm trying to dld the torrent you have linked to above, but not getting anything down after 30 odd mins. My client is showing 0(2) seeds and as prom3th3us says you have 3 per 3 trackers with your other 3 trackers timing out.
Exactly, it's been almost 1 hour now, it's toughly reached to only 1.6%, besides I have finished 2 movies 3 GB per each with a great speed and with same trackers.

Kindly check and make sure your torrent client is running and torrent working properly. Thanks

 
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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-21 21:52:56(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I updated the tracker list.  TGx now shows a 1 in the list.  but if it's a problem item it just may need to be delted and a new
torrent built.

However if you're on it now I try putting on as an 'only' to see if your get any-- doing that now.
3:52 pm

 
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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-21 21:59:57(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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What I see happening is the 'only' seed  is throttled at about 25 K.  I'll run it that way for a while to see what happens.  I know this title has extremely low interest.  But I consider it rarity to preserve for anyone scanning my list.

My maximum upload is  223K .   That is set per the client recommendation at throttling back 20% of maximum to avoid
choking.  It's  small account-- all I can really afford on DSL.

 
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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:09:46(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Nothing for me yet    0(2) seeds   -  0(1) peers

Edit:  0(2)  0(2)

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BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:36:17(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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The tracker list of 8 that I sent to you is fine, you don't really need 15 trackers, you only actually need 1 working tracker, the others are just backups, adding too many trackers only increases the load on the machine, especially dead trackers.

I don't know why you keep worrying about your torrents seeding and so on, they are fine, as you know, my seedbox auto downloads them via RSS and seeds them automatically for 200 hours, then they are auto-deleted, I just checked your torrents and they have shared to a ratio of about 40 or 70, depending on age, which is pretty good imo, shows your torrents are working well and popular.

Just keep them coming and chill
😎

 
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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:40:48(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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But the one lonin is talking about is not seeding from you or anyone else and I'm about 2 hrs in.... and I believe prom3th3ous is the same

Edit: back ups is a good thing

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BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:44:22(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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sherb wrote:

But the one lonin is talking about is not seeding from you or anyone else and I'm about 2 hrs in.... and I believe prom3th3ous is the same
That was uploaded back in 2019, most people have deleted it, including me lol

 
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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:46:38(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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ok... so she is not actually seeding said torrent then :facepalm

"What I see happening is the 'only' seed  is throttled at about 25 K."    reread it properly

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BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2021-01-21 22:53:03(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Trust me :-) they are working

 
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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-21 23:01:02(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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Had to switch vpn location a few times to get it going but coming down now

 
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battlestar:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_male::_sitelover::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-21 23:04:25(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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loninappleton wrote:

I see one at  Zero where I know my client is seeding it and it is showing at TGx.  Why is it showing empty?
Seeding counts are always flakey at best, on any public site it seems, they are broken completely on Pirate Bay atm.

Trackers don't always respond, network issues, wrong day of the month - there can be many reasons.
TGX specifically seems to have trouble with some trackers, I noticed that on my torrents a while back.

 
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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-21 23:53:03(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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After I got back to this (had a nap)  I saw a couple completions briefly then gone so everything must  be working.
I'll go back through the thread and read it more carefully.  I think the problem was an old tracker list but
BigJO says otherwise.

It wasn't my intention to have 15 trackers.  I just added the current list he gives me (about 5-6) but perhaps I didn't
edit it down correctly.    

Thanks for the time taken with my inquiry.

 
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sherb:_trusted_uploader::_sitefriend::_sitelover::_junkie::_kitty::_sun::_turtle:Posted at 2021-01-22 00:16:30(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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No problem at all, I'll seed this up for you for as long as my space needs :) no seedbox here just me lappy.

 
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BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2021-01-22 00:16:46(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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loninappleton wrote:

After I got back to this (had a nap)  I saw a couple completions briefly then gone so everything must  be working.
I'll go back through the thread and read it more carefully.  I think the problem was an old tracker list but
BigJO says otherwise.

It wasn't my intention to have 15 trackers.  I just added the current list he gives me (about 5-6) but perhaps I didn't
edit it down correctly.    

Thanks for the time taken with my inquiry.
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:facepalm like I said, the one u r talking about is from 2019, which was before I ever helped, as you can see in the image, some of the trackers are currently offline and one of them you added twice for some reason, but your new torrents work & have all working trackers because I sent you the updated list of 8 that I personally use, since then, only the demonoid 1 is a bit "iffy", like I always say to you, do what you like, it's your torrent, but I don't think it would improve it, if your uploads are throttled to 220KiB/s then that's all you will get changing/adding trackers won't speed it up, I suggest you ignore the seed stats on the torrent page, treat it as a rough guess, like Battlestar said, all public sites do this, On 1 public site I use, it always says I have several seeds, even though I've only just uploaded it :facepalm lol

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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-22 04:52:08(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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My only rejoinder is that I thought I edited out the old and brought in the new for that Red Hot torrent.  There may have been an overlap but that shouldn't have happened.  I'll  re-inspect the list for that item but the other thing is it's one torrent but
mounted on two PC's-- the second is my backup.  I will check both.

 
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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-22 05:03:02(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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I have replaced  the tracker list  with the list you sent.  That was definitely an expired tracker list on this  box.
The new list now shows some good activity-- which is surprising for , as you said,  a torrent from 2019.  But I have torrents
going or refreshed for 10 years and more.  I had one of the oldest surviving on ( I think) TPB.  

I will update  my main PC which is the always on box.

And if I remember to,  I'll pay less attention if I see something zeroed in the list.

 
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BigJ0554:_moderator::_sitelover::_sun:Posted at 2021-01-22 05:08:31(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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loninappleton wrote:

I have replaced  the tracker list  with the list you sent.  That was definitely an expired tracker list on this  box.
The new list now shows some good activity-- which is surprising for , as you said,  a torrent from 2019.  But I have torrents
going or refreshed for 10 years and more.  I had one of the oldest surviving on ( I think) TPB.  

I will update  my main PC which is the always on box.

And if I remember to,  I'll pay less attention if I see something zeroed in the list.
Updating the tracker list from a torrent that you've already uploaded doesn't change the trackers on TGx or any other website, it only changes them in your torrent client, the only way is to add a comment on the page and tell people what trackers to add if it doesn't download and they can edit them, but it's not necessary as 3 trackers are working well and that's good

 
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loninappleton:_trusted_uploader::_junkie:Posted at 2021-01-22 17:35:51(169Wks ago) Report Permalink URL 
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and you have the last word.  :-)

 
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loninappleton wrote:

and you have the last word.  :-)
Yup :-)

 
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